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Place Manager


Place Manager

THIS SERVICE ONLY SUITS PLACE BETTERS. If you like to "Place" bet with Betfair and don't know how to set "fair" place odds, then this is an excellent "Place" backing and laying tool.

It can be used in two ways, either as a guide to placing "fair" "Place" bet odds for your own selections, or to assist you in finding value in the "Place" market.

What we mean by "fair" is that odds are set at our* calculated "true" odds with a small profit margin (for backing or laying).

This means that you maximise your position over the long period by not taking or giving under-value-odds and also allows you to take your bet or lay by not trying to post over-the-odds (ie your bet is taken). The small margin in the "true" place odds calculated, is pre-set at 10% for Back and Lay and our HRT selections (including Confidence Ratings) are NOT taken into consideration. THIS INCLUDES THE HRT PLACE ODDS. We suggest that you incorporate your own filters on the calculations made (ie track ability, distance ability checks, HRT place odds etc, maybe add or take-off a small percentage to change the margin), however, the service is still effective on its own. The odds shown are purely fractional and do not take into consideration the factions Betfair uses. For example, odds of $35.55 may need to be rounded up to $36.00.

* We use our own formula.

 

Example

The following table shows Place Manager in operation only a minute before jump time. Note that there are two additional fields displayed (in red), "PBack" and "PLay", standing for "Place Back" and "Place Lay". You will also see that the fields are slightly lighter in colour than the traditional Betfair colours of blue and pink (refer last two columns which are in similar darker colours). 

If you wanted to back "Holy Moses" for the place, then Place Manager is suggesting odds of $1.95. It is currently $1.92, slightly under. Remember there is a 10% margin here, so the odds could be acceptable.  Whatever the case, it gives you a guideline on whether to take the odds right away, wait for our "true" odds with a small margin, or wait for even a higher price (higher margin). If you wanted to lay this horse, it is showing you that the lay price of $2.14 is way under value (Place Manager recommends $1.79 at its calculated price and a 10% margin). This lay respesents a poorer position of -44%.

Your system does not need to be form related to use this tool. You could for example follow each favourite and only back or lay it when appropriate. Maybe you have a favourite jockey, place your bets when you know the odds are favourable - getting the idea?

The other way the service may be used is by finding value. As you can see in the example, "Cristi's Idol" is our top HRT rater and is $1.74 the place. Place Manager suggests that the odds should be $1.48 the place, this can be seen by Place Manager darkening the background colour of the field. This represents an excellent place bet overlay ( at +54%). In fact this horse actually ran second. Even though the TAB place odds were $1.70, Place Manager showed it as a good overlay, using just the TAB price could make one think it was not value (not considering our rating). 

Also there is a lay recommendation in the example (refer to the darker pink background field), "Speedy Viper" at $26.93, making the $25.00 a fair lay (it is under our recommended price). We recommend that you nudge up from the Back Price rather than go straight in and take the price on request (e.g. start with $13.00 and move up to the "true" calculated ceiling odds recommended. From experience though, we do not recommend laying horses higher than $10 the place.

Please note that these prices are dynamic and could change on every refresh. Also we recommend that you use the service close to jump time (do not use early in the market ie Lay market lower than 95% and Back market higher than 110%) and be quick, a lot of other people are looking for value too!

One last bit of advice, you'll probably find IASbet place odds pay better than Betfair a lot of the time and there is no commission to pay. It is worth keeping a check on the IASbet place odds near jump time and if they are much better, maybe taking the risk that they'll stay that way (especially in large pool races on the weekend). For the record, "Cristi's Idol" paid $1.84 on IASbet whereas on Betfair $1.70 after the 5% commission is taken out. But whatever the case, a great overlay was indicated.

It is worthwhile checking a few of the HRT fields before backing. Horses that are too heavy, never raced at the track or distance may not be worth the bet or conversely may be worth the lay.

We personally use this service and think you'll find it as a great "Place" betting tool. It may read complex, but it is pretty simple to use.

As with any automated system there can be anomalies. Favourites with wide barriers, poor apprentice jockeys, dramatic change in distance etc may come up as a good overlay, but may not necessarily be true value - use your judgment. Also some horses may come up as value because there is a very short Favourite in the race. This can skew the calculations. In general, these situations are not that frequent. If you decide to use this system, it needs to be at your own risk with the understanding that you may lose. We do not accept any responsibility for losses. 

 

No.

Horse

Codes

RPos

Form

Bp

Trainer Jockey

Wgt

CFactor Rating Place HRT Win PBack PLay

No.

PBack PLay

01

HOLY MOSES

-

M:-2

24x2

11

L J HATCH M RICE

57.5

45% 

105

2.30

5.00

1.95

1.79

01

1.92 

2.14 

02

CAPTAIN MAT

-

P:?

4035

7

N J PETERSEN J SHARP

56.5

21% 

94

3.10

7.30

1.9

1.75

02

1.71 

1.87 

03

SPEEDY VIPER

-

M:?

8

4

MS D NEWHAM P WOLFGRAM

56.5

11% 

77

5.60

14.80

32.37

26.93

03

12.50 

25.00 

04

CRISTI'S IDOL

-

F:+1

4525

6

A J COWELL S WRIGHT

55

36% 

120

1.60

2.80

1.48

1.4

04

1.74 

1.83 

 

This service will:-  maintain your discipline, decrease your errors, highlight all place Back/Lay opportunities per race, reduce your concentration and increase your execution time.  

 

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